njc, you are really making yourself look stupid.shalom would equate that kind of language with ad hominem, I think.A.E. Knoch Unsearchable Riches vol.81 Your oral traditions are perverted and unBiblical, and this is obvious because the one you quoted ignored the plain meaning of the King James Version, the "Authorized" Version.As you well know, if the KJV was good enough for Peter, it's good enough for you.