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« on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

Like before, i will come back to make my point in a bit.  First, answer the question! :roll:
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

DOES absolute truth exist, or COULD absolute trut exist? :D
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

Of course absolute truth exists.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

Of course absolute truth does not exist.
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

hahaha I love you guys :D

absolute truth: the actions of the current administration are having an adverse effect on the American Economy, National Debt, and Foreign Relations.
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

As of the time of this posting 100% of all poll participants do not believe in absolute truth.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

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Of course absolute truth does not exist.


Do you mean that absolutely?   :lol:
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

"God is spirit." That is absolute truth and not subject to change.

"Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures" is absolute truth and is not subject to change.
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Did God say that He "will have all mankind to be saved" or that He "will NOT have all mankind to be saved? (1Tim.2:4-6]
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures" is absolute truth and is not subject to change.

And there are Demons that exist who fight against evil according to DC Comics.  Absolute truth?
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

Absolutely.   :D
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

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Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures" is absolute truth and is not subject to change.

And there are Demons that exist who fight against evil according to DC Comics.  Absolute truth?


I think you meant "And there are demons that exist who fight against GOOD . . . ."?

If demons fight against evil then their kingdom is divided.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

ABSOLUTELY!!!! ha! it's so good to be back!
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

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I think you meant "And there are demons that exist who fight against GOOD . . . ."?

If demons fight against evil then their kingdom is divided.


He's called "Hellboy".  He was called to the earth by the Nazis in WWII, but somehow he turned good and now he fights evil.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

Does Hellboy like any specific brand of beer?  :P
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

Bah... Hellboy looks dumb... that and he looks like my roommate josh....... Spiderman 2 folks.... that's where it's at :)
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

Woohoo! Majority wins 7-1, absolute truth exists. I'll tell ya, I was nervous for the first little bit.
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

There are three kinds or types of 'truth' for humanity.

1. Truth is defined by the individual. It is subjective and situational.
 Eve chose this type of truth, which says they make up what is right and wrong.
2. Truth is defined by the group or culture; it is subjective and cultural.
Adam chose this type of truth because he listened to Eve and the serpent. "Whatever the group says goes."
3. Truth is defined by God for everyone. It is objective and absolute.
You come to the realization of this truth when you say to yourself you don't have to right to say what's right or wrong; it is God and him alone that defines truth for everyone for all times.

Nice look to the forums! Harry buddy, member me?  :)

Some absolute assurance of absolute truth:

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Deut. 30:15-20 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it. But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them; I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it. I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.

Psalm 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

Psalm 33:4 For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth.

Psalm 85:10-11 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other. Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.

Psalm 96:13 Before the LORD: for he cometh, for he cometh to judge the earth: he shall judge the world with righteousness, and the people with his truth.

 Psalm 119:160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Proverbs 12:19 The lip of truth shall be established for ever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment.

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

John 8:31-32 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Now ain't that the truth!  :D

John 8:44-45 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

John 10:37-38 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

I have plenty more, but I will spare Harry and his friends to think about this absolute truth thingy. It's some serious business and justice and righteouness. ;)
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

Absolute truth exists and is the basis for objective moralityTM  :)
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

Does Hellboy like any specific brand of beer?

Does Jesus like being held down and sexually assaulted by his boyfriend?
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2004, 10:45:00 PM »

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Does Hellboy like any specific brand of beer?

Does Jesus like being held down and sexually assaulted by his boyfriend?


Dear Heretic,
 I find your post rather disgusting. Jesus never was sexually assaulted. That is absolute truth.
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Well?
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Well? Are we?
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