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Apostates Urge Linguistic Surrender To Islam
« on: August 16, 2007, 05:06:56 PM »

Much to the chagrin of the Roman Catholic Church as well as Protestants for that matter, an outgoing bishop from the Netherlands is suggesting that Western theists should just go ahead and refer to God as "Allah" and Islamist front groups are applauding the suggestion.

Christians in Arab countries might refer to God as "Allah", but frankly I don't really care since this country speaks English and here refer to the deity as "God."

If you don't like it, take your headtowel and go back to your filthy sandpile.

Years ago, I remember watching a moving scene filmed during World War II where Roosevelt and Churchill aboard an aircraft carrier led the service personnel gathered on the flight deck in a rendition of "Onward Christian Soldiers".

Should those giving their lives for our freedom hear of plans to surrender now before the battle for souls has hardly begun, such patriots would no doubt be spinning in their graves.

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Re: Apostates Urge Linguistic Surrender To Islam
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2007, 03:28:51 PM »

A proposal by a Roman Catholic bishop in the Netherlands that people of all faiths refer to God as "Allah" is not sitting well with the Catholic community.

Tiny Muskens, an outgoing bishop who is retiring in a few weeks from the southern diocese of Breda, said God doesn't care what he is called.

"Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? ... What does God care what we call him? It is our problem," Muskens told Dutch television.

"I'm sure his intentions are good but his theology needs a little fine-tuning," said Father Jonathan Morris, a Roman Catholic priest based in Rome. Morris, a news analyst for FOX News Channel, also called the idea impractical.

"Words and names mean things," Morris said. "Referring to God as Allah means something."

Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington, D.C.-based Islamic civil liberties and advocacy group, backs the idea as a way to help interfaith understanding.

"It reinforces the fact that Muslims, Christians and Jews all worship the same God," Hooper told FOXNews.com. "I don't think the name is as important as the belief in God and following God's moral principles. I think that's true for all faiths."

Christians who are Arabic speakers speak of Allah when they speak of God, Hooper added.

"There's not a theological leap to make on the part of Christians," Hooper said.

The Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago supports the idea.

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Re: Apostates Urge Linguistic Surrender To Islam
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2007, 07:19:44 PM »

I almost feel compelled to think that any article featuring a guy named 'Tiny Muskens' has got to be a parody or something.  I'm sure it isn't but it makes me think that.
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Re: Apostates Urge Linguistic Surrender To Islam
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2007, 11:59:45 PM »

Well, according to Christian apologist Ravi Zacharia, "Allah" is not the same as "God." Allah (from the Quran) fails to refer to Jesus as his son, but calls him a good prophet.

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I almost feel compelled to think that any article featuring a guy named 'Tiny Muskens' has got to be a parody or something.  I'm sure it isn't but it makes me think that.
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